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Offline ctknecht

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1969 Beetle Autostick Deluxe correct Speedometer
« on: 20 June 2018, 05:34 »
My son and I have a 1969 Deluxe Autostick Sedan. My speedometer was replaced by one of the previous owners, and I think it is a 1970 model speedo. Anyway, I am trying to confirm what mine should look like and what the actual part number is. The parts manuals appear to state I should have a speedometer with a separate fuel gauge. It states that part number 113 957 057 D is the Speedometer I should have. Description is "Speedometer (miles) reading in tenths without fuel gauge" and it states it is for Chassis 1181003668 up to 1113200000 for Option M20: 113. . .). That is the only one I could find with Miles (option M20) for the Deluxe (113). Does anyone know if this is accurate?

This all started because we want to add a Tach and I was planning to try to find one that "matches" the speedometer look and install it in the right dash panel, but now I am wondering if a fuel gauge should go there (rather than the one integrated into the speedo). As we searched for a Tach to match, we began to realize we may not have a 1969 model speedo (I knew it was changed, just didn't realize it wasn't the same year) so we may try to find an original to replace it and I want to make sure if we spend that money that we get the correct one, then we can decide about the separate fuel gauge and the tech mounting location.

Chris & Chris
San Antonio, TX
Working on our first Beetle: Diamond Blue 1969 Autostick 1300 Sedan Deluxe (1500cc SP now 1600cc SP, SOLEX 30PICT3 with DVDA distributor)

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Re: 1969 Beetle Autostick Deluxe correct Speedometer
« Reply #1 on: 07 July 2018, 07:59 »

I also replaced My Speedo for one in KMH as the original was in MPH. When the description says with a separate fuel gauge, it is probably the correct late model 1968-69-70-71 speedo with the fuel gauge inside the speedo... although it is inside the speedo, it IS a separate part. So, I believe You maybe could buy a new speedo without the fuel gauge inside it.. and the old fuel gauge fitted into the new speedo. You just need to use an autostick speedo that has the extra bulbs fitted that the manuals did not have.. My Speedo has  9 [from memory] bulbs. not including the fuel gauge lamp.. ATF LAMP - oil lamp- Generator lamp - High beam lamp - blinker lamp- reverse lamp - heated window lamp - Lamps for speedo 2 -   You don't need to use every lamp.
I have pulled apart many VW speedos and have adjusted the speedometer numbers....


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Re: 1969 Beetle Autostick Deluxe correct Speedometer
« Reply #2 on: 11 October 2018, 13:56 »
Hi,
[/size][/color]I also have a Hella speedo in the dash plus oil temperature and oil pressure and voltage meter.  They are just aftermarket gauges that look good in Beetles... They are a very common addition to VW Beetles in Australia...[/font]
[/color][/size]I believe ALL Autosticks were DELUXE models as they ALL had the bright alloy or chrome or stainless steel strips on the body plus around the windows etc...  I don't believe Your speedo to be Option M113... I'm guessing here, unless they are saying that the speedos with the ATF Lamp is an option??? plus there are speedos with a reverse lamp light , and a heated rear window lamp.  These are common in many countries, with MPH or with KMH or some with both MPH & KMH....[/color][/size][/color][/size]Lee in Australia..[/color]
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Re: 1969 Beetle Autostick Deluxe correct Speedometer
« Reply #3 on: 16 November 2018, 21:32 »
That's quite a few speedo options. How do you even decide what to go with?

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Re: 1969 Beetle Autostick Deluxe correct Speedometer
« Reply #4 on: 20 November 2018, 05:28 »
Just decide what You want - Miles or Kilometers... and what lamps You  want inside the speedometer.
ATF lamp - 
Reverse lamp - heated rear window lamp - fog lamp - options..they will all have oil- blinker - Generator - High Beam plus lamp/s for the illumination of the speedo at night..The date the speedo was made is usually stamped on the back of the speedometer...Parts wise : the speedometer and the fuel gauge are seperate parts.  but buying a used one they are always a complete unit..
My dash in photo.... PS: My oil pressure lamp is not connected..


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« Last Edit: 20 November 2018, 05:31 by 68autobug »
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Re: 1969 Beetle Autostick Deluxe correct Speedometer
« Reply #5 on: 20 November 2018, 05:52 »
My Kilometer per hour speedo with ATF - Reverse lamps - heated rear window lamp -
You can of course connect these lamps to anything ...   Fog or driving lamps etc..


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Re: 1969 Beetle Autostick Deluxe correct Speedometer
« Reply #6 on: 28 December 2018, 12:16 »
My Tachometer and extra gauges are not hella or bosch but VDO brand which are very common in Australia... or they were many years ago....  some VDO gauges were made in Australia...
-- Helping keep Autostick beetles on the road --
   -1968 Silver metallic 1600 single port Beetle - with BOSCH  SVDA and new BROSOL H30/31 carburetor with GENIE Extractor exhaust system with a quiet thunderbird muffler

http://photobucket.com/68autobug