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Technical / Re: 1970 VW Type 1 Auutostick ...
Last post by Chippy Senior - 07 July 2025, 18:03Hi - I've not seen such a thing, but that doesnt mean it doesnt exist! I will have a look around. I would expect it to be fairly difficult to acquire certain specific parts and a donor clutch may be a better solution.
I know I have part numbers for certain 'major' parts but nothing more than can be found on certain supplier catalog pages.
Might be worth raising the question on TheSamba?
I know I have part numbers for certain 'major' parts but nothing more than can be found on certain supplier catalog pages.
Might be worth raising the question on TheSamba?
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Technical / 1970 VW Type 1 Auutostick Expl...
Last post by LA Irish - 05 July 2025, 21:44Gentlemen
I am going to undertake separating my engine for my transmission next week. Clutch is frozen and no matter how much banging I do it won't release. Not sure condition of components but hoping for best preparing for the worse.
I am looking for an exploded view that also included part numbers to help easy my identification and ordering of clutch component parts. I know several vendors have some of the part numbers but really would like more details if possible. Not sure if there is an old VW document/shop manual that might have them.
Got the Bentley manual to help id the parts but really need the numbers. Does anyone know where I can locate such a document? Also, any recommendations on what parts should be replaced would be appreciated.
Thanks
I am going to undertake separating my engine for my transmission next week. Clutch is frozen and no matter how much banging I do it won't release. Not sure condition of components but hoping for best preparing for the worse.
I am looking for an exploded view that also included part numbers to help easy my identification and ordering of clutch component parts. I know several vendors have some of the part numbers but really would like more details if possible. Not sure if there is an old VW document/shop manual that might have them.
Got the Bentley manual to help id the parts but really need the numbers. Does anyone know where I can locate such a document? Also, any recommendations on what parts should be replaced would be appreciated.
Thanks
#3
General / Re: Still active?
Last post by redeyedtreefr0g - 29 June 2025, 03:46I like it here. Reading threads on this forum tends to teach me the stuff I need to know in a nice direct manner without a bunch of "swap in a manual", negativity, or random guesswork by people who feel the need to click that reply button for no reason.
I'm putting together a 1972 Super Beetle autostick which also happens to be my first classic Volkswagen ever, so there's been a LOT to learn!
I just wanted to make sure I chime in to say how much I appreciate you and the other folks here.
I'm putting together a 1972 Super Beetle autostick which also happens to be my first classic Volkswagen ever, so there's been a LOT to learn!
I just wanted to make sure I chime in to say how much I appreciate you and the other folks here.
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General / Re: Still active?
Last post by volkenstein - 20 May 2025, 03:27And I have after getting through password issues. I have been MIA a bit due to what my healthcare professionals refer to as "getting CABbaGed".
Volkenstein aka Sean
Volkenstein aka Sean
#5
General / Re: Still active?
Last post by Raymond73 - 18 May 2025, 16:27Volkenstein (moderator) was active a few days ago, but agree not a lot of activity these days. If you message him directly, he may be able to assist.
Ray
Ray
#6
General / Still active?
Last post by Chippy Senior - 12 May 2025, 10:22I'm assuming that given the low number of posts and even less responses, this site is now defunct. Is there an active @admin?
#7
Technical / Gearbox/transmission codes - a...
Last post by Chippy Senior - 08 March 2025, 14:10(Similar cross-posted on TheSamba)
Hi - sorry to raise this topic again. I have read many prior threads on the subject (here/Samba/STF) and still do not have definitive answers. Several of our UK group members are holding spare autostick transmissions and it is not clear whether they may be suitable/straightforward replacements for their vehicles (if and when the time comes).
Tables/Charts/Lists
A chart/list that is commonly shared looks like this (sometimes with individual gear ratios included):
BA 1300/1500 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/68 – 8/70
BC 1300/1500 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/68 – 8/70 with LSD
BE 1600 4.125 Semi Automatic from 8/68 – 8/70
BF 1600 4.125 Semi Automatic from 8/68 – 8/70 with LSD
BG 1300 4.125 Karmann Ghia Semi Automatic from 8/70
BH 1300 4.125 K. Ghia Semi Automatic with LSD
BJ 1300 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/70
BK 1300 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/70 with LSD
Some versions of the table have an additional row:
BL 1600cc 4.125 Semi Automatic
And some have a further BK row following BL - not sure if this is an error, or a typo for BM/BN (or something else):
BJ 1300 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/70
BK 1300 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/70 with LSD
BL 1600 4.125 Semi Auto
BK 1300 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/70 with LSD
Or there's another version that has differences for BG code (1600 KG vs 1300 above):
BA 1300 / 1500 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/68 – 8/70
BC 1300 / 1500 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/68 – 8/70 with LSD
BE 1600 4.125 Semi Automatic from 8/70 – 8/71
BF 1600 4.125 Semi Automatic from 8/70 – 8/71 with LSD
BG 1600 4.125 Karmann Ghia Semi Automatic from 8/70
BH 1300 4.125 Karmann Ghia Semi Automatic from 8/70 with LSD
BJ 1300 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/70
BK 1300 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/70 with LSD
BL 1600 4.125 Semi Auto
BK 1300 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/70 with LSD
Some form of this list appears on various part supplier websites, typically as part of a longer list including manual 'box codes.
However no-one appears to have questioned why BO doesn't get listed despite many examples in existence? BO would logically come later in the alphabetical series, following BL (or BM/BN, if used). However there's some suggestions that these were early '68 boxes and BO actually came 'first'.
From images I've seen there's a difference bewteen a stamped O and a stamped zero. One has stright sides, the other is rounded. However to confound us all these seem to have been used somewhat interchangeably.
Missing codes...
- What were BB and BD codes reserved for, when we can see sequences BE/BF/BG/BH and BJ/BK/BL were all used? (Note: I assume BI was perhaps not used to avoid confusion with B1?)
- We haven't seen any physical examples or photos of BC/BF/BH or BK - so does anyone know if VW actually made any AS/SA gearboxes with the limited slip diff? (Note: there is a singular old VWAR comment suggesting someone was acquiring a BH, but that could be a typo/error? And there's a couple of Samba comments that suggest no-one's seen a LSD AS/SA gearbox!)
And what's the story with KGs?
- The list specifically calls out KGs (type 14) against BG and BH, so what was fitted to KGs before 08/70? And why were BG and BH specific to KGs? What was different?
- At least one version of this table suggests BG and/or BH were used in 1300 KGs after 08/70 but VW stopped 1300 KGs in '67. Would these 1300s have been 'special orders' or is this an error in the table?
The digits...
- The digits that follow the two-letter code vary in length. We've seen/got 5, 6 and 7 digit examples (shown with spaces as stamped, where known):
BA 021 5573 ('69 beetle)
BA 021 6090
BA0230 438
BA025 2645 ('69 beetle)
BA0 27 3904
BA033 1638 (my '70 beetle)
-
BG 06043
BG04 73244
-
BJ 16073
-
BL 11103
-
BO 004426
BO 011 521
BO 011814
BO 021412 (two temp senders)
BO 051107
BO 075 416
BO077 939 ('68 KG)
BO 089 785
BO 107 848
BO 119 741
- Are all BJs and BLs 5-digit? (Note: there was a theory that this represented manufacture date as dd/mm/y, however this format doesn't hold true for 6- or 7-digit examples... plus it can't carry forward as the first five or last five digits, those ideas don't work either).
- Are all BOs 6-digit?
- Are all BAs 7-digit? Or was it a BAO code with 6-digit?
- What's going on with the BG examples above?
- Any clarity on the changing numerical format between the letter codes?
Other details...
- I've never seen a list that further correlates the two-letter codes to other details such as casing design; front & rear mount type; number of temp sensors; number of drain plugs; park function; reverse light switch etc - all of which vary.
- Or maybe there is no direct correlation and the (serial?) number is registered back in the archives against these other parameters/specifics?
- No service/technical manual that we've found goes into this level of detail either. (Note: there is a past VWAR comment suggesting that 'a couple' of someone's 'books' listed the codes, but no further details unfortunately).
So... does anyone out there have access to a more definitive; correct and fuller history of AS/SA gearbox codes? I'm hoping (dreaming?) that this kind of info isn't lost for good!
(I've written to the Stiftung AutoMuseum Volkswagen but don't expect a detailed response. Next stop will be the VW corporate archives...)
Cheers, Chippy Senior
Facebook: UK&I Semi-automatic VW Beetle & Karmann Ghia Community
Hi - sorry to raise this topic again. I have read many prior threads on the subject (here/Samba/STF) and still do not have definitive answers. Several of our UK group members are holding spare autostick transmissions and it is not clear whether they may be suitable/straightforward replacements for their vehicles (if and when the time comes).
Tables/Charts/Lists
A chart/list that is commonly shared looks like this (sometimes with individual gear ratios included):
BA 1300/1500 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/68 – 8/70
BC 1300/1500 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/68 – 8/70 with LSD
BE 1600 4.125 Semi Automatic from 8/68 – 8/70
BF 1600 4.125 Semi Automatic from 8/68 – 8/70 with LSD
BG 1300 4.125 Karmann Ghia Semi Automatic from 8/70
BH 1300 4.125 K. Ghia Semi Automatic with LSD
BJ 1300 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/70
BK 1300 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/70 with LSD
Some versions of the table have an additional row:
BL 1600cc 4.125 Semi Automatic
And some have a further BK row following BL - not sure if this is an error, or a typo for BM/BN (or something else):
BJ 1300 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/70
BK 1300 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/70 with LSD
BL 1600 4.125 Semi Auto
BK 1300 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/70 with LSD
Or there's another version that has differences for BG code (1600 KG vs 1300 above):
BA 1300 / 1500 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/68 – 8/70
BC 1300 / 1500 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/68 – 8/70 with LSD
BE 1600 4.125 Semi Automatic from 8/70 – 8/71
BF 1600 4.125 Semi Automatic from 8/70 – 8/71 with LSD
BG 1600 4.125 Karmann Ghia Semi Automatic from 8/70
BH 1300 4.125 Karmann Ghia Semi Automatic from 8/70 with LSD
BJ 1300 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/70
BK 1300 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/70 with LSD
BL 1600 4.125 Semi Auto
BK 1300 4.375 Semi Automatic from 8/70 with LSD
Some form of this list appears on various part supplier websites, typically as part of a longer list including manual 'box codes.
However no-one appears to have questioned why BO doesn't get listed despite many examples in existence? BO would logically come later in the alphabetical series, following BL (or BM/BN, if used). However there's some suggestions that these were early '68 boxes and BO actually came 'first'.
From images I've seen there's a difference bewteen a stamped O and a stamped zero. One has stright sides, the other is rounded. However to confound us all these seem to have been used somewhat interchangeably.
Missing codes...
- What were BB and BD codes reserved for, when we can see sequences BE/BF/BG/BH and BJ/BK/BL were all used? (Note: I assume BI was perhaps not used to avoid confusion with B1?)
- We haven't seen any physical examples or photos of BC/BF/BH or BK - so does anyone know if VW actually made any AS/SA gearboxes with the limited slip diff? (Note: there is a singular old VWAR comment suggesting someone was acquiring a BH, but that could be a typo/error? And there's a couple of Samba comments that suggest no-one's seen a LSD AS/SA gearbox!)
And what's the story with KGs?
- The list specifically calls out KGs (type 14) against BG and BH, so what was fitted to KGs before 08/70? And why were BG and BH specific to KGs? What was different?
- At least one version of this table suggests BG and/or BH were used in 1300 KGs after 08/70 but VW stopped 1300 KGs in '67. Would these 1300s have been 'special orders' or is this an error in the table?
The digits...
- The digits that follow the two-letter code vary in length. We've seen/got 5, 6 and 7 digit examples (shown with spaces as stamped, where known):
BA 021 5573 ('69 beetle)
BA 021 6090
BA0230 438
BA025 2645 ('69 beetle)
BA0 27 3904
BA033 1638 (my '70 beetle)
-
BG 06043
BG04 73244
-
BJ 16073
-
BL 11103
-
BO 004426
BO 011 521
BO 011814
BO 021412 (two temp senders)
BO 051107
BO 075 416
BO077 939 ('68 KG)
BO 089 785
BO 107 848
BO 119 741
- Are all BJs and BLs 5-digit? (Note: there was a theory that this represented manufacture date as dd/mm/y, however this format doesn't hold true for 6- or 7-digit examples... plus it can't carry forward as the first five or last five digits, those ideas don't work either).
- Are all BOs 6-digit?
- Are all BAs 7-digit? Or was it a BAO code with 6-digit?
- What's going on with the BG examples above?
- Any clarity on the changing numerical format between the letter codes?
Other details...
- I've never seen a list that further correlates the two-letter codes to other details such as casing design; front & rear mount type; number of temp sensors; number of drain plugs; park function; reverse light switch etc - all of which vary.
- Or maybe there is no direct correlation and the (serial?) number is registered back in the archives against these other parameters/specifics?
- No service/technical manual that we've found goes into this level of detail either. (Note: there is a past VWAR comment suggesting that 'a couple' of someone's 'books' listed the codes, but no further details unfortunately).
So... does anyone out there have access to a more definitive; correct and fuller history of AS/SA gearbox codes? I'm hoping (dreaming?) that this kind of info isn't lost for good!
(I've written to the Stiftung AutoMuseum Volkswagen but don't expect a detailed response. Next stop will be the VW corporate archives...)
Cheers, Chippy Senior
Facebook: UK&I Semi-automatic VW Beetle & Karmann Ghia Community
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Spotted on eBay / ‘61 Saxomat on Fleabay (in UK)
Last post by Chippy Senior - 06 December 2024, 14:12 #9
General / Window stickers
Last post by Chippy Senior - 06 December 2024, 14:07Anyone got any of these sitting around? Would love to get hold of one for my semi... and know a few others who'd also like.
#10
Technical / Re: Auto stick knob replacemen...
Last post by Chippy Senior - 26 November 2024, 23:53Hi - are you aware of the Facebook group for semis?
UK&I Semi-automatic VW Beetle & Karmann Ghia Community
UK&I Semi-automatic VW Beetle & Karmann Ghia Community