1971 VW Autostick Vacuum Line Routing

[68autobug]

Hi Guys

Did We have the DVDA on any of Our aussie beetles Sean  ?

or were they only on emission control cars in the USA

Lee

[volkenstein]

Lee,
     The SP manuals list the DVDA's and I have seen a '71 Autostick in a VW yard with one fitted. I wish I had of paid more attention at the German Autofest 2 years ago. A guy had a '72 or '73 there that had done 34,000 klms . Mint...

But as you well know, so many 009's have been fitted over the years.

Regards
Sean

[vwjohn]

Sorry. Forgot to give you the distributor #'s. Here is everything in order:

JFUR4
0231167053
113905215AH

I also took new pics of the carb and dist. Let me know what you think.

[vwjohn]

I also have one more question and could not find the answer in the forum. All of my wiring to the rear lights was fried and I had to replace. The only ones I have not replaced is the back up light wiring. I did replace the fuse (8a) on the shroud but still no lights. I just need to know where to look underneath, ie; pass side, front, rear etc... Thanks

[Bookwus]

Hiya John,

You may find the following of use...............

Beetle 1971-1973 * 1600 Auto-Stick Trans

Distributor: VW 113-905-205AH, Bosch 0231 167 053 > 043-905-205D, 0231 176 033
Can Use: VW 043-905-205D, Bosch 0231 176 033, 211-905-205Q, 0231 167 055, 211-905-205S, 0231 173 001
Points: 01 011
Points Replacement Plate Assy: VW 311-905-227C, Bosch 1237 110 161
Condensor: 02 054
Rotor: 04 033
Dust Cover: 039-905-241, Bosch 1230 500 139 > 1230 500 147
Cap: 03 010
Distributor Cap Clip: 034-905-265, Bosch 1231 251 033
Parts Kit (Shims, Washers & Hardware): 059-998-211, Bosch 1237 010 007
Coil: 00 015 (Blue Coil: 00 012)
Vacuum Can: 07 092
Ignition Wires: 09 001
Spark Plug: W8AC
Timing Set At:: 5deg ATDC @ 800-950rpm w/strobe, vacuum hose(s) connected.
Advance/Retard Range: Vacuum: 2-5deg Adv, 11-13deg Ret; Centrifugal: 12-16deg @ 2200rpm, 22-25deg @ 3800rpm

[vwjohn]

Do you still think I have the vacuum advance hooked up wrong? Just want to ask as there is one other port at the bottom of the carby. Also, with the dist I am using, should the timing actually be 7.5 degrees btdc? That would be about where this engine runs really well. Thanks.

[volkenstein]

vwjohn,
          I is confused ...You said this earlier -

as the dual port one was frozen

. So which distributor was it?

The 205AH is correct for your year, sorry can't see the piccies from work.

So which distributor is working and is it on the car?. Timing is distributor type dependant.

HTH
Volkenstein

[volkenstein]

vwjohn,
          So, I've seen the pics. The vacuum lines look all correct in your pics. I hope that distributor is not the 113905205AH you've quoted. If it is, it has been badly butchered.

Wiring? Here : http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/wiring/bug_super_71.jpg

The 8a fuse goes to the Reverse light switch on your trans (pass side in your LHD car) and feeds the lights via a 3 way or "T" connector. That connector should be near the ATF reservoir neck in pics I have seen. I don't have it as Reverse lights were not mandatory in Aus for '71. Anyway each side of the "T" feeds black wires which connect to the blue reverse light wires.

HTH
Volkenstein

[vwjohn]

HI. When you say butchered for the dist, do you mean the vacuum advance? I pulled one off of another dist just to see if it would work. It seems to but I would really like to get a new dual port advance for it to normal it up. I checked the usual websites but they all want to sell a complete distributor. Is there a site you could recommend to get just an advance unit?

vwjohn

[Bookwus]

Hiya John,

You might want to try contacting Philbin Manufacturing here in Portland.

Philbin rebuilds distributors (and you might want to check out their rebuilt distributors) and is likely to have what you need, a 07 092 vacuum can.

Check 'em out at

http://www.philbingroup.com/

[volkenstein]

vwjohn,
          OK, I'm almost on the same page. The vac can in your pic was AFTER you'd swapped it for the SP one.
By all means try those guys Mike has linked to. I know one other place that has one, but the price is maybe $30US short of buying a brand new SVDA from www.Aircooled.net . What distributor is on the '72 4 Speed? In a pinch you could use it if it is still a DVDA type while you get things sorted out.

Regards
Volkenstein

[vwjohn]

Thank you for the info. The dist on the 72 sadly does not have a vacuum advance. It uses only a cent adv. I do not believe the engine is original. The spare motor I was given is where I pulled the advance from. I will have to get you the numbers off of it and send to you. I may just end up ordering a new svda from aircooled.net. I will get back to you with the numbers.

Thanks,

vwjohn

[vwjohn]

Finally got the #'s from the other dist (from the spare engine out of an autostick):

jfu4
0231170036
043 905 205 A

If you think it I should use this one instead please let me know.I can always put te vac advance back on it.

Thanks,

VWJohn

[Bookwus]

Hiya John,

Insofar as I can tell the 043 905 205A is an exclusive application.

Most of the distributors allowed for a little interplay.  In other words the factory suggested one might be able to be used in place of another.  Not so with your 205A.  It is exclusive to the 1974 Federal 1600 AutoStick.  It is listed in no other applications I can find.  It is definitely listed not for the 1971 AS engine

[vwjohn]

Ok. I will keep the one I have until the new one arrives. Seens to work ok for now.Thanks for the help!

VWJohn