Clutch pad

[STROHMA]

What type of clutch disk Do you have in your car?

I am putting together a autostick from parts the trans. is out of a 74. I ordered a new clutch disk and pressure plate and it came with a spring cage center. This doesn't fit on the new pressure plate but the vendor insist thats what his book calls for. The old disk is a rigid and looks just like one out of a 6 volt standard trans. Is this something different in 73 and newer trans.? or are the older ones using rigid clutch disk.

[bookwus]

Hiya Strohma,

I'm not exactly sure this is what you want, but...............

I'm replacing the clutch assembly (pressure plate and disc) in my 70.  The pressure plate is VW part number 001 141 025.  The disc is 001 141 031.  Perhaps you can check these numbers against what you have.

For what it's worth I am told (by folks I would trust) that there were four of the 001 141 031 clutch discs on the west coast.  The 025 pressure plate was unobtainable - period.  However I managed to locate a source for the pressure plate which is out of the normal parts loop.  In short, neither of these parts is in ready supply.  Are you sure you have the correct parts?

Mike

1970 AS Bug

[STROHMA]

I found out I had the wrong clutch plate. I bought a pressure plate from Oregon and recieved a 6V clutch pad with springs. I then ordered what I thought was a AS ridgid plate and got a 6V ridgid plate. These don't fit in my pressure plate the center hub is riveted on the opposite side of the plate causing them to stick out 3/8" farther than the proper plate. I finally had my existing clutch relined for $65. Should of done this in the beginning local shop did it in a day and the trans. went together perfect. I now have two 6V clutch plates if anybody has a standard trans. bug and needs one. Thanks for the part numbers I'll keep them on record if I ever have to go through this again.

[bookwus]

Hiya Strohma,

Just out of idle curiosity (and since I live in this neck of the woods) what Oregon based business were you dealing with?  Did these guys refund your money after the no-fit?

Mike

1970 Bus - The Ruptured Duck

[STROHMA]

Don't know the company name Guy was doing resale out of his garage over the internet. I got his info off the Samba. He was pretty good to work with he just didn't know what he had. He bought the parts in a job lot and was reselling them. part numbers matched just not the right part in the box. He didn't have another one left. He did offer to refund the money for the clutch and pay shipping back.  Mans name was Gary Ploof I'd work with him again. He tried to make things right as best as he could. The price I bought everything for was still cheaper than CIP1 had listed for the pressure plate and they were out of stock. clutch pad was an extra in the deal. wasn't worth the hassel to try and send it back for a $20 clutch pad I can probably sell it locally.

[bookwus]

Hiya Strohma,

Thanks for the info.  I like to keep tabs on "who" might have "what".  And since this was in my own backyard, I had to ask.

By the way, and along the same lines, who did your clutch reline?  Were you happy with the job?  Did you have the contact surface of the pressure plate refaced?

Finally, I have to "go in" and replace my clutch.  Since you've already been there, do you have any tips or tricks for me?  And....did you replace the clutch with the tranny in the car or did you remove the entire unit?  I've read and re-read the manuals but I'd like to get some advice from somebody who has actually done the job.

Mike

1970 AS Bug

[STROHMA]

I had the clutch redone at a local semi parts place Fleetline is the name they may be accross the US. they specialize in clutch and brake parts.

They blasted and coated my plate the cut new pads from sheet stock, rivets look close to top compared to the manual clutched but the thickness is right. Made a nice looking unit.

My bug is a big pile of parts, I bought a completly stripped manual and a trashed Autostick stripped the trans out and am rebuilding the manual bug. The whole tranny has to come out since the bellhousing comes off to access the clutch, Job wasn't hard I sat it on a workmate and with the right parts took maybe 30 min to have it tore down and reassembled, Put in a new torgue converter seal while its out. and don't forget the two nuts inside the gear housing for the bell housing. I made a centering jig on the lathe using an old broom handle centered the clutch pad while tightening the pressure plate. After that all I had to do was wiggle the clutch fork to set in the throw out bearing the rest popped right in. linning the torgue converter is easy since the tranny is in the car by then and the engine is out, make sure it goes all the way in both sets of spline teeth.

[STROHMA]

I forgot my pressure plate was new and the contact plate on the bell housing had no signs of wear so did not have to be surfaced. you might want to clean it with emery paper to clean off any old build up.

[bookwus]

Hiya Strohma,

Thanks for the tips!  That's exactly the sort of information I was looking for.  I'm sure glad this forum is here.  This ought to be an interesting experience.  I'll let you know how it all turns out.