VW Birth Certificate: How To

buggerfly · 11 February 2008, 14:41

Ok Mike and the rest of VWAR, here is the latest info on the Volkswagen "Birth Certificate".

We are pleased to research data of your Volkswagen and to draw up a birth certificate with the recorded data regarding colour, date of manufacture, port of destination...

The price for this service is 35 Euros which you have to pay ,,cash with order", please. Our terms of payment are: via Visa / Mastercard / American Express – card number and expiry date. Send the credit card details via e-mail or fax, our fax number is +49 - 53 61 - 5 20 10.

You can also transmit the amount on our bank account

Volksbank eG Braunschweig Wolfsburg (Volksbank BraWo)

Am Mühlengraben 1,38440 Wolfsburg

BIC / Swift-Code: GENODEF1WOB

Account / IBAN: DE32 2699 1066 0811 8400 00

Do not forget to inform us about the chassis number of your vehicle and the engine number. Because of data protection we are not allowed to inform you about the original engine number. However, we are able to proof if the engine number you will give us correspond to the chassis number of your vehicle.

Please inform us about the name of the vehicles' owner and the complete address where we should send the certificate to, please.

► The safest way to order a certificate and to pay by credit card is via our internet homepage www.volkswagen-automuseum.de. There you will find our "Urkundengenerator" to fill out an order form. At the end of the order process you will come to an ipayment-system if you want to pay by credit card.

Or you find our international bank account number if you want to pay by bank transfer.

We need approximately 4 - 6 weeks for the research.

We are looking forward to hearing from you.

We do not accept checks or money orders for organisation reasons. We ask for your understanding. Thank you.

Yours faithfully,

Heike Fendler

Stiftung AutoMuseum Volkswagen

Dieselstrasse 35

D-38446 Wolfsburg

Telefon +49-5361-925014

Fax: +49-5361-52010

For anyone whos intersted the 35 Euros in USD breaks down to 50.8688, so about $50.87. www.XE.com has an online currency conversion chart you can use.

buggerfly · 12 February 2008, 07:29

I just have one question on this, is the VIN and the Chasis number the same thing? Even my dad wasn't sure so if one of you guys can clear this up for me I'd appreciate it.

Bookwus · 12 February 2008, 08:22

Hiya Stephanie,

Hmmmmmm...........well..............they're supposed to be the same.

In other words, the number on the little metal tag (after 67) riveted to the left hand side of the dash SHOULD be exactly the same as the number that appears on the top of the tunnel under the rear seat. So, yes the chassis number (on the tunnel) is the same as the VIN (on the metal tag).

The problem here is that these cars are either over 40 years old or pushing that mark and much may have happened to them in that span of time. Even cars that look pretty much stock may have been "played with". A common procedure in restoring these cars is to transfer a good body to a good pan. Of course, when that happens the numbers will not match.

buggerfly · 12 February 2008, 14:33

Thanks for clearing that up for me Mike, appreciate it.

68autobug · 14 February 2008, 14:46

Quote from: Bookwus on 12 February 2008, 08:22

In other words, the number on the little metal tag (after 67) riveted to the left hand side of the dash SHOULD be exactly the same as the number that appears on the top of the tunnel under the rear seat. So, yes the chassis number (on the tunnel) is the same as the VIN (on the metal tag).

Mike,
We didn't have the chassis number tag on the dash... never seen one... do you have a pic..??

I know Australian super beetles had a tag spot welded [or riveted] near the spare tire...
but I don't think its the chassis number...[??] maybe a local VIN number??
Sean should have one...
so, as far as i know, We have to lift the rear seat to check the chassis number...
and thats a pain when all the seat belts go under the seat.... lol

I only have the made in Western Germany plate in the front..

Lee

http://community.webshots.com/user/vw68autobug

Bookwus · 14 February 2008, 16:13

Hiya Lee,

I'm pretty sure that the window tag was in compliance with a USDOT regulation that required (still requires) the VIN be readable through the windshield of the vehicle. I'll see if I can get a snap of it later on today and post it up. I'm not sure if I can get it to show if I get a flash reflection in the windshield - but I'll give it a go.

68autobug · 15 February 2008, 14:00

Mike,

cars sold in Australia now have the VIN visible from the outside of the windshield...
but it wasn't back in the 70s or 80s...
maybe the 90's...
We are a bit slow down here....

Lee

buggerfly · 28 February 2008, 06:25

Mike,

I was able to get a better look at the car last weekend and I found that the car is all original, the numbers on the windshield, door jam and front hood all match. Didn't get to check the tunnel, but we guess if the others are all the same then hopefully it is too. Can't wait to get her home and running.

68autobug · 28 February 2008, 13:24

Hi Stephanie

Well, We didn't have the numbers on the door jam either...

chassis numbers over here are only accessible under the seat...

Why they couldn't have put it on the ID plate
we'll never know....

Have a good weekend...

can you take some pics for Us Steph??

Lee

buggerfly · 01 March 2008, 04:50

Hey Lee,

I will get some pics as soon as I get the car home, still waiting on the IRS to deposit my federal return so I can pay the guy and get her running. Any particular pics you want?

Stephanie

68autobug · 01 March 2008, 07:56

Hi Stephanie,

Any pics of complete engine - Front and back and side of car...
Pic of the dash.. and any more you want to take...

I'll look at them all...

thanks Stephanie

the waiting is probably driving you crazy....
I know i would be... lol..

Lee in Australia

http://community.webshots.com/user/vw68autobug

buggerfly · 02 March 2008, 19:41

You got that right Lee,

I was hoping to have it and get it in gear, literally, and ready for our first show of the year in Nacogdoches, Texas at the end of this month, its looking like I wont have her ready until the Texas Classic in April. I do have a few pictures I took that I sent to a friend of mine, I will post them as soon as I can.

Stephanie

buggerfly · 02 March 2008, 20:02

Ok Lee,

Here are the pictures I currently have of the car, and of course it had to rain the day I went to see it for the first time.
Didnt get any of the back seat yet or with the top down due to the rain and had to quickly get back in the car. I did discover on one of my other trips to see it last week that the rear pans had been replaced and front ones were in good shape. It has some surface rust inside and out, but only one major part by the drivers side rear fender. Pretty solid car as my friend told me.

Inside view from the drivers(left) side

Inside view from the passengers(right) side

Under the front hood, still has original upper trunk cover, very little rust

Decklid, very bad paint job. The inside is bright yellow and the outside is lighter and chipping.

The engine, not too bad looking, just needs a little cleaning.

Bookwus · 03 March 2008, 00:41

Hiya Stephanie,

I believe that looking at the engine can tell you a lot about the PO and his/her commitment to taking care of the car.

Just think about that statement and visualize Lee's engine compartment. You know the guy spends a lot of time with that engine.

But it can go deeper than that.........I see three "Red Flags" when I look at your engine. Onboard is a 009 distributor. The general consensus of opinion nowadays is that the 009 is NOT the distributor to have teamed with a 34PICT3 carburetor. They don't play well together. A MUCH better choice is the original dizzy or an SVDA.

Right above that distributor is an in-line gas filter. Yipes! It is not a good thing, as Martha might say, to have that filter so close to the distributor. Spark and gas together is just a bad combination anywhere else than the combustion chamber.

And.......I'd replace the aftermarket air filter with the real thing. The oil bath air filters are big and clunky, true. But they are the most effective air filter and they are put together with a built-in velocity stack. Very neat!

Looks to me like the PO more or less took care of the car but wasn't into VWs all that deeply.

The car looks like the beginning of great ride for you Stephanie. I am sure it will "bloom" under your care. Nice find.

68autobug · 03 March 2008, 00:44

Hi Stephanie
I had a beetle that color back in the 70s..
it faded badly, and was much lighter in color when i sold it...

I've never seen an engine lid Like Yours ....
You have two sets of eight vents...

but I just remembered that Your car was made by KARMANN not VW...

Volkswagen made engine lids had two sets of vents in the engine lid in 1970-71 but then changed to 4 sets of vents... in 1972..
8 vents on the outside and 7 vents in the inside two ....

so even your engine lid is Rare Stephanie...
You could paint the license plate lamp holder black...
seeing the paint has worn off..

I wish that Mail man would hurry up Stephanie...

Best Wishes from Australia

Lee

http://community.webshots.com/user/vw68autobug

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